tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post2466922715438414743..comments2023-11-16T22:51:23.412-08:00Comments on Reflections of Time: Should Sarah Palin's Baby be aborted?M.Chttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06581292238132393002noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-4178401663563724342008-10-13T07:01:00.000-07:002008-10-13T07:01:00.000-07:00well no this is wrong.well no this is wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-13680239601433661842008-10-01T14:37:00.000-07:002008-10-01T14:37:00.000-07:00Have you seen her interviews? She is completely in...Have you seen her interviews? She is completely incompetent. She is pro-life because it goes w her political affiliation/career. How can she be pro-life but find killing innocent animals for fun perfectly acceptable? McCain is all about experience, but his running mate has virtually NONE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-17698113447347198552008-10-01T09:33:00.000-07:002008-10-01T09:33:00.000-07:00Please reconcile Quantity life with Quality Life. ...Please reconcile Quantity life with Quality Life. <BR/><BR/>As a mother of a child with Down's Syndrome, Sarah Palin has won the jackpot. UNLIKE other families who are caring for their special needs children, Sarah Palin has at her disposal virtually infinite resources to cover those needs. Her situation is not similar to many other families with a special needs child. She can afford to be pro life even with a special needs child.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-12262125815085274202008-09-30T02:59:00.000-07:002008-09-30T02:59:00.000-07:00well she did good thingwell she did good thingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-21079564781742081302008-09-30T01:30:00.000-07:002008-09-30T01:30:00.000-07:00I'm sick to death of this crazy fuzzy love feeling...I'm sick to death of this crazy fuzzy love feeling that people get over Sarah Palin. Case and point is that she isn't running for president and we shouldn't be voting for McCain based on her personal choices to keep a baby with down syndrome. <BR/><BR/>I've also seen the very rare footage of her in TV interviews where she struggles to form coherent sentences (Tina Fey, you know what I'm talking about). I'm disgraced as a politically active woman that she is even considered for the role of vice president, even the people of Alaska are rallying against her bridge to nowhere policies. In Ancorage 1,400 protesters showed up at an impromtu rally. Showing that she's not even popular at home. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_4GfAsKvGU<BR/><BR/>The very scary thing is that she could very well become president as McCain is 72 and has had several different types of skin cancer. In my opinion from hearing her speak she is dangerously unprepared for the role of president. I'd vote for her in a beauty contest but never for public office, what ever happened to people caring about the issues, Roe v. Wade isn't going to help your sick kid, or get you a job, or ease the pain of $4 a gallon, or the depreciation of the American dollar. American politics is a sad sad state of affairs, anyone not voting on the issues shame on you! Find out more for yourself http://themaverickandthemilf.netAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-20876410483390082602008-09-29T05:03:00.000-07:002008-09-29T05:03:00.000-07:00I think it's great that you feel the way you do ab...I think it's great that you feel the way you do about Ms. Palin and her child. However wonderful her experience, and that of some others may be, I personally know that I'd never have the patience to deal with a Down's child if one of my own pregnancies came to pass that way. But at the same time, how could I pass that burden on to someone else, much less a state that's already strapped for cash? Taking away the option to abort is not only dangerous, but detrimental to the health of women. Why should I be forced to carry something in my body that I don't want and won't want when it's born, simply because it conflicts with your views? I think you need to take a step back and learn to be more accepting of those with different views and beliefs to your own. What would Jesus do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-19439436137893782142008-09-27T11:24:00.000-07:002008-09-27T11:24:00.000-07:00Hey bro, great blog. Well said. :)Hey bro, great blog. Well said. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-35552272587355608602008-09-26T05:08:00.000-07:002008-09-26T05:08:00.000-07:00I was a little shocked at how the "should Trig hav...I was a little shocked at how the "should Trig have been aborted" story took off. I am about as crazy leftist pro-choice as you can get, but it's no one's business but the Palin's what they do with their child. If they are dedicated to keeping every baby, no matter the consequences, that is their right. Hence the choice in pro-choice.<BR/><BR/>In this day in age with all of the medical advances and support out there, even raising a disabled child and having other priorities is not impossible. They choose to have it and to love it, and everyone else should leave well enough alone. I mean, <I>really</I>.Kiwihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08421326247240741344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-31459977297335748612008-09-25T12:37:00.000-07:002008-09-25T12:37:00.000-07:00ummmmm... if Sarah Palin is sooooo pro-Life, then ...ummmmm... if Sarah Palin is sooooo pro-Life, then how did she even know that her unborn child was going to have Down's Syndrome?<BR/><BR/>If she is sooooo pro-Life and deserves so many applause...then she had no reason to have an amniotic fluid test, which in fact is risky and can lead to losing the unborn child. SUCH HYPOCRISY.ericahenaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04141412010296730062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-59216964536500640812008-09-25T09:02:00.000-07:002008-09-25T09:02:00.000-07:00My first and only born is defending this country. ...My first and only born is defending this country. So! That doesn't make me qualified to run a country.<BR/><BR/>Oh wait, I can be sarcastic and spit out one liners with the rest of them though, so surely that qualifies me, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-70139137101641579722008-09-25T08:56:00.000-07:002008-09-25T08:56:00.000-07:00I think all of her choices are politically driven....I think all of her choices are politically driven. She is not the best mother in the world otherwise her seventeen year old child wouldn't be knocked up. <BR/><BR/>She is not qualified and never will be qualified to run this country because she is not capable of running her own home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-65939366804441411512008-09-25T07:40:00.000-07:002008-09-25T07:40:00.000-07:00My Mom was a career woman throughout my childhood ...My Mom was a career woman throughout my childhood and adult life. She raised four children with little assistance from my father and never missed a beat as a mother or a professional. My three brothers and myself will attest to that. My Mom recently passed away from breast cancer. My mother was an executive and worked up until six monthes prior to her death. My Mom was not only the best mother in the world but one of the most amazing women I will ever meet. She was my mother, mentor and my best friend. This debate is not about being a mother with a career. There are just some women that can handle more than others. These are amazing women. I am 36 years old and have three small children and a career that requires me to travel. My life is not about the quantity of time that I spend with my children. It is about the quality of time that I spend with my children. My success comes from having reliable day care and a good support system. I have no doubts that Sarah Palin is a phenomenal mother and that she will make a superb VP. Afterall, she is one of the amazing women out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-11227007065448209182008-09-25T07:39:00.000-07:002008-09-25T07:39:00.000-07:00Sarah Palin has brought many of these issues into ...Sarah Palin has brought many of these issues into the spotlight. And for a country that likes their answers in sound-bite form, there will be no such answers to this very personal issue. The answer will vary depending on the family and the job. We now have to face the facts of a long-time theoretical discussion. These conversations must happen, They must happen between couples, co-workers and employers/employees. America is sadly lacking in employer support of family obligations. Perhaps that is the conversation we should be having.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-47784210908684028722008-09-25T07:38:00.000-07:002008-09-25T07:38:00.000-07:00We are the only country that makes excuses for hav...We are the only country that makes excuses for having a woman in higher office. We are a free people and, yet, we make it hard for a woman--in this day and age--to truly be free. Few of us could ever do what Gov. Palin is capable of doing...serving the people. Those who criticize her cannot even keep their own homes clean. She is of a unique makeup and more power to her. She will make a marvelous Vice-President and still have the love of her children. Has anyone noticed how happy and proud her family seems to be of her? ...grandmother of 10, mother of a Harvard physician; mother of a daughter who home schools four boys (and pregnant) while her commander husband is in the Mid East (she is for Gov. Palin); and I have other daughter whose husband is a professor. I am Middle America and at 71--still work. We need more people like Gov. Palin. We need to be praising her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-64359251136576945702008-09-25T04:59:00.000-07:002008-09-25T04:59:00.000-07:00You have got to be kidding me! I hope the statisti...You have got to be kidding me! I hope the statistic you listed regarding the percentage of pregnancies terminated due to the possibility of a downs syndrome baby, is wrong. They are the sweetest, most wonderful people in the world, who deserve a chance to see the sun and the sky...just like anyone else. Shame on whomever chooses to deny them a life.Distressing Delilah a.k.a. jennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831745078384676860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-65171435960344485472008-09-25T00:04:00.000-07:002008-09-25T00:04:00.000-07:00I have no doubt what my wife and I would do, knowi...I have no doubt what my wife and I would do, knowing what we know - and Who we know - now. To take a life is unthinkable. However I am in no position to 'tell' Sarah Palin what she should do. I have just a little understanding of what a parent could be going through at such a time and we should pray for her.wayfarerjonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421721406818115630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-9563368975489038382008-09-24T20:20:00.000-07:002008-09-24T20:20:00.000-07:00Sarah Palin getting an abortion is not a decision ...Sarah Palin getting an abortion is not a decision that I am in a position to make because I am not her. That is a decision that is between Sarah Palin and her Husband. If you are seeking mere opinions on her choice to have this baby knowing that he would have special needs, then I can give you my opinion on that which is that if she can actually take care of the baby and meet his needs as a parent, then she should not have had an abortion and it is good that she didn't. That is not to say abortions are a bad choice. It is up to each individual woman and her partner/husband/boyfriend or whoever helped in creating the child.<BR/><BR/>If Sarah Palin knows that she can fulfill her duties as a parent, then her decision was fine. However, if she knew that having this baby would bring many challenges and even some that she may not be able to handle, then a better decision would probably be to allow someone to adopt the child or bring in a second Guardian to help take care of her baby.<BR/><BR/>At the end of the day, she chose to have this child, so this baby with special needs is HER responsibility and not the goverment's, not McCain's repsonsibility, not her doctor's, not anyone elses but hers.<BR/><BR/>This may be harsh, but aborting a baby with special needs may actually help the baby AND the parent in the long run because what type of contribution can a special needs child make to society?<BR/><BR/>While they may be able to make some kind of impact, it is not grand most of the time and so Parents like Sarah Palin who choose to still have a kid with special needs is actuall choosing to have a baby that will in some ways be a baby forever because the parents will Always have to take care of the child, even when that child is 50 years of age and then when the parents are no longer living, who is supposed to take care of all of these "special needs"? I am not an expert on her son's condition, so what he has may actually be something mild and not something really serious like a severe mental deficiency OR disabilities that do not allow the child to perform normal daily tasks. <BR/><BR/>That is one thing that many people who are sympathetic to babies with special needs seem to not want to address.<BR/><BR/>Sarah Palin is a republican right, and many republicans OR even people that are just very conservative are all about everyone having individual responsibility. Well,<BR/>when Sarah Palin grows old and passes and is no longer here, who is going to take care of her special needs child? Some type of hospital? some type of home? some type of program that "helps" children with special needs? How is that their responsibility? Why do the homes and special needs programs have to take care of someone that does not have the ability to make valuable contributions to society like other average citizens who do NOT have special needs? When I consider this perspective, abortion seems to be the answer to that issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-71217747446597945192008-09-24T13:39:00.000-07:002008-09-24T13:39:00.000-07:00My girlfriend and I talked about it but it was ill...My girlfriend and I talked about it but it was illegal in 1971 so... <BR/><BR/>My first son, joyful miracle of my life,was born grew up and beaome an Electrical Engineer and holder of eight patents. My wife and I didn't really understand love until you hold that infant for the first time. My wife went on, while married, broke and a parent, to receive a nursing degree. Nurses are Angels on earth in my book! With her help, I earned an engineering degree, BA in Business and an MBA at Univ of Chicago, all while working full time. <BR/><BR/>My second son announced his girl friend's pregnancy. Now proud parents to three beautiful Grandchildren, settled in a new home near us and both with careers they live a full life and they are a joy! <BR/><BR/>My friend adopted two children, brothers, from a religious family service. They are now men but one with autism will need to stay with them always. He retired early, takes him to the health club, bike rides and pool and is his best friend. He also drives the "special needs" bus for the district part time and the kids love him. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for letting me reminisce.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-57028860042975064372008-09-24T13:37:00.000-07:002008-09-24T13:37:00.000-07:001. I think partly what happened here is that most ...1. I think partly what happened here is that most urban types nowadays are 'liberals' on social issues like equal rights, diversity, abortion etc. and there was a visceral, instant dislike of Palin purely on that count, one that backfired in their faces since they rushed to judgment in the essentially hostile world of 'gotcha' journalism. <BR/>2. This also exposed their tendency to be enthused by Obama's reasonable and generally decent persona, so that other campaigns had to attack him, like first Hillary's and then McCains, whereas with Palin they went right at her. <BR/>3. The media was also somewhat insulted that someone could be picked who they really didn't know much about. <BR/>4. The mainstream media on the whole was okay about it. It was the 'liberal blogosphere' that went nuts - in a nasty way - and since the media did not have enough time to do any responsible research before the blogs went ape, the stories on those blogs became the only material at hand and in this time of the 24-hour news cycle, this further delayed their ability to dig into her record properly. <BR/>5. She represents a huge cross-section of American women who - although they might not be religious fundamentalists and favor choice etc. - nevertheless do not buy into the orthodox feminist dogmas that relegate motherhood as little more then exploitation by wicked patriarchalists and so forth. This has become an increasingly unpopular view amongst many women but has sort of remained under the radar. Sarah Palin embodies a modern feminist who is not really one, but clearly able to have a dynamic public career as well as being a dedicated mother and wife in a traditional sense. So she is a breath of fresh air that way, and also a bit of a slap in the face to the liberal feminists who look down on conservative types as being little better than neanderthals sometimes. <BR/>6. If Palin were not very attractive, aka 'hot', her impact would have been far less. Not only is she a Christian conservative and a successful executive, she is also a goddam beauty queen! I'm not sure exactly how to quantify this, but the fact is that an attractive woman has a whole lot of stuff going for her that ricochets around a whole lot of neurons - not to mention of the gonadic variety - on all sorts of levels making her more of a focus of attention, i.e. instant star power. So she literally blazed onto the scene. <BR/><BR/>One of the most remarkable political dynamics in recent history. It is going to be very, very hard for Obama to win now because I don't think the spotlight will ever really shine on him again. He is relegated to being old news - within less than 24 hours of his historic speech accepting the nomination. Unbelievable turn of events. <BR/><BR/>He is going to have to raise his game considerably but I don't think he can because when all is said and done he is offering the same basic American Empire policy, i.e. a continuation of the Military-Industrial-Congressional complex that Ike warned about. When some sort of flare-up happens in the Middle East in October - which it almost certainly will - McCain might not only win, but win big. <BR/><BR/>Sad. I think Obama was/is one of the most promising political figures in decades. But if he doesn't raise his game and propose some far-ranging changes (which now is too late for him to do probably), it ain't looking good. <BR/><BR/>Now I know why our ancestors didn't allow women to take leadership roles. They TOTALLY outshine the men!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-9698004739637825102008-09-24T13:35:00.000-07:002008-09-24T13:35:00.000-07:00Amen. I consider myself to be pro-choice. My son h...Amen. I consider myself to be pro-choice. My son has DS and we had a pretty good idea he would have it before he was born. He is a bright boy who just entered 1st grade and is reading, writing, and doing math right along with his typical peers. I can't say it has always been a cup of tea, but he is far from "handicapped" and he has taught us more about patience, compassion, empathy, heartbreak, and joy than anyone can imagine. I highly recommend everyone get to know someone with a developmental or other disability before passing any kind of judgement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-70191131935547438662008-09-24T13:34:00.000-07:002008-09-24T13:34:00.000-07:00That has been at the back of my mind from the get-...That has been at the back of my mind from the get-go, but I wasn't able to find the right words. Pro-choicers probably are saying in their heads, 'what an idiot Palin was for not aborting" while they're pasting on a charitable smile at the Special Olympics giving sound bites about "these wonderful kids." What messed-up "values" the pro-abortionists have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-34929329646126540802008-09-24T08:14:00.000-07:002008-09-24T08:14:00.000-07:00I have no issues with Governor Palin's wonderful f...I have no issues with Governor Palin's wonderful family. I do have issues with McCain being the next President of the United States. I want a President who will not have knee-jerk reactions to issues. We don't need a maverick to run our military. We need somebody with intelligence, calmness, patience, reflection, global thinker, and bi-partisan. You may disagree with my view, but I do not see McCain reflecting these values.<BR/><BR/>--Father of Four :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-30302013592388359462008-09-24T07:28:00.000-07:002008-09-24T07:28:00.000-07:00I had to respond to this. I am a mother of 3 child...I had to respond to this. I am a mother of 3 children. My youngest, Trent, has down syndrome and is as much as a blessing as my other 2. Although we face challenges as a family I dare say that every family has its own challenges and unique situations to contend with and like all familiess we are enpowered by the divine choice of whether we decide to make it a positive or negative one. Excuse the cliche but when we stop hindering and side lining individuals with stereotypes we find out that the world is a place of tremendous possibilities. Down syndrome is characterized as higher in older women because less women have babies as comparatively to teenage/early 20 yr old girls. Therefore statistically it distorts. I think I am going to sit back and learn more about the candidates and 2 questions come to mind, how many men have children in their later years and 2nd this couple has been married 20 yrs. parenting is best with two and so far the positive message I see from the Palin family that when you stick together as a family viewing life (the American Dream) that the true choice isn't what we may be born with.. its what we do and persevere and overcome that makes all things possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-6758597844849923202008-09-24T07:25:00.000-07:002008-09-24T07:25:00.000-07:00I am the father of a child with Down Syndrome. As ...I am the father of a child with Down Syndrome. As an engineer that works over 11 hours every weekday of my life, it is true that professionals that have a child with DS or other abnormality do not need to shut down their career in order to be a good, resourceful, loving parent. There are genetic disorders far more devastating than typical DS that begin to rattle the foundation of my pro-life beliefs, but it is very sad to realize this is a world where an estimated 90% of children with DS are annihilated before taking a breath of air. Human beings with DS are of among the most benevolent and innocent to be encountered...and 9 out of 10 of them are extinguished before ever given the opportunity to say 'I love you Daddy' ...for economics, for convenience, for choice, for fear, for hatred? I know of liberals who have made the same choice that Sarah Palin has made. But statistically, this is indeed an uncommon, heroic act of one Republican Christian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1735107020116490633.post-38626082354460537542008-09-24T07:24:00.000-07:002008-09-24T07:24:00.000-07:00Our second child was diagnosed with Down syndrome ...Our second child was diagnosed with Down syndrome by amniocentesis @ 16 weeks into the pregnancy. Today she is thriving in a mainsreamed 5K classroom. I personally think that Sarah Palin is not a "hero', but unlike 95% of others who are faced with this diagnosis. We were told that 95% terminate the pregnancy. I can't imagine how people cast stones when they have never walked in her shoes. Sarah Palin knew this was a blessing! <BR/><BR/>My daughter has taught others how to love unconditionally like most children with Down syndrome. She "gets" what so many of us miss about life. She loves others from the depth of her soul. People fall in love with her because she sees them as "perfect". She recently brought many to tears at our church when she got up in front of the entire congregation @ 6 years old to sing her favorite song..."Go Tell It On the Mountain..." after the Minister spoke about how to strengthen your Faith. Afterwards, someone came up to me with heartfelt tears in their eyes and said, "leave it to the beautiful little girl with Down syndrome to get the message across to the rest of us." Words cannot express how proud I was.<BR/><BR/>If more of us could love so unconditionally...what a better America we would live in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com